But Ritz, who has both undergone and conducted SERE training, says there is a great degree of difference between training and actual interrogations, where harsh techniques may be combined and carried out for longer periods.

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Yet once more, O ye Laurels, and once more Ye Myrtles brown, with Ivy never sere, I come to pluck your Berries harsh and crude, And with forc'd fingers rude, Shatter your leaves before the mellowing year.

我再一次来，月桂树啊,棕色的番石榴和常青藤的绿叶啊，在成熟之前，来强摘你们的果子，我不得已伸出我这粗鲁的手指，来震落你们这些嫩黄的叶子。

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In SERE training military personnel are subjected to many of the same techniques to toughen them up for possible capture by an enemy - and Ritz says SERE trainers were imported to the Guantanamo Bay detention facility.

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