But I don't think a meeting of -- I don't think if you have a meeting of 30 people that denotes that you can't or won't get something done.

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Mr. BARTON: You know, I think that people go into a first meeting with a realtor right now in a very disadvantaged position.

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And I think a number of people that are important to the debate are in this meeting.

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And the President then, I think, at the speech site, was able to have this clutch, this brief meeting backstage with a number of people who have made extraordinary sacrifices -- the leader of the Saffron Revolution, political prisoners who have been released after many years in jail, representatives of ethnic minorities.

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